Pleasures and Follies of a Good-Natured Libertine

[Brigit Astar]

I'm curious how many people have read this erotic work. It's the first literary work of erotica. It was written in the late 18th century.

[Landy]

i have not had the pleasure but I will seek it out.

[Brigit Astar]

You will not be disappointed. I find it incredible that a work written more than two hundred years ago is the best erotic work I've ever read, with the most erotic scenes ever written.

[crzy67]

I read it years ago and found it very exciting. I wish that it didn't get lost along the way.

[Kayla Blind]

There's a Website that has the first chapter posted for free. May we repost it here? The chapter, I mean, not the Website.

[Bad Black Beast]

I'm curious how many people have read this erotic work. It's the first literary work of erotica. It was written in the late 18th century.That is definitely wrong! Erotic work in literature is much older. How old erotic literature really is, is something, that is not known. But it is a matter of fact that even the old Egypt wrote about sex and were creating pornographic images long before Christ. In common opinion the very first erotic roman was "Satyricon" by Gaius Petronius around 66 a.C.. It is true that it is a great book, and it`s true that it was the first big time erotic book in a great line. But erotic literature is much much older. ;)

[Brigit Astar]

The key word is literary. Sure, there were pornographic works written before the 18th century but they were crude, not literary. Pleasures and Follies is literature. The works before that book were not literary. They were definitely not literature--and they were not erotic--they were pornographic. There is a big difference.

[Bad Black Beast]

The key word is literary.
In common opinion the very first erotic roman was "Satyricon" by Gaius Petronius around 66 a.C..End of the fact. And there is no way for you to change history. You`re almost 2.000 years too late. ;) There is absolutely no reason to be pissed, angry or annoyed. It is just a fact. Even so that there is no difference between erotic and pornographic literature when we speak about the written word.

By the way. Don`t you think it is totally arrogant and swanky to say ancient authors are "not literary". It is simply a pretty skin-deep conclusion to say good works started at Barock. It is not true! Look, I understand that you might love that novel. But to say former writers were not able to create sophisticated works of literary high class is a hit to face for everyone who ever has red Homer, Plato, Aischylos, Sophokles, Euripides, Aristophanes (who wrote with "Lysistrata" a very good comedy about gay or straight) or Cicero. So do me (and you) a favour and keep an eye on that authors.

[Brigit Astar]

You're simply wrong and I'm right. Case closed.

[Bad Black Beast]

You're simply wrong and I'm right. Case closed.No, that case is not closed as long as you are fixed in this dead end opinion. Don`t be stupid and take a look at the facts you have to accept. It doesn`t help you just to know your single opinion that is not true. You have to be open minded if you want to experience more. I`m sure it is no damage to you. ;)

[Brigit Astar]

Why are you so angry and upset?

[Bad Black Beast]

I am not angry nor upset. Else I would have used other words and phrases. ;) I just want you to see an objective point of view. There is no reason to block or something like that.

[Brigit Astar]

I'm going to let you have the last word if you want it because I'mk tired of this back-and-forth bickering

[Bad Black Beast]

That is just that blocking and obstinate mind I thougt of. ;)

[frankjohnmoore]

now-now kids be good

[Brigit Astar]

There's a Website that has the first chapter posted for free. May we repost it here? The chapter, I mean, not the Website.

Wow...what website is that?

[Stryfn1]

The key word is literary. Sure, there were pornographic works written before the 18th century but they were crude, not literary. Pleasures and Follies is literature. The works before that book were not literary. They were definitely not literature--and they were not erotic--they were pornographic. There is a big difference.

And that difference is keenly in the mind of the reader.

[Brigit Astar]

Maybe eroticism is in the mind of the reader, viewer or listener. But if that is true, that would mean eroticism is subjective and not objective, which would mean that most anything could be erotic to someone. I think there is an objective thing that we can say is erotica. Part of its effect is subjective, but part of it is objective also. If it wasn't for the object, then erotica would be impossible to fulfill. But then, I realize there is solo fun and masturbation and self-stimulation. So it is very possible to achieve satisfaction with oneself and therefor the object is not necessary. I'm getting lost here, so I will close this up. I just thought: Is it possible to have an orgasm by just thinking about sex? Somethi ng tells me that a lot of nuns think a lot about sex, and achieve satisfaction by just thinking about it and not doing anything about it.

[ImmortalBeloved]

I just thought: Is it possible to have an orgasm by just thinking about sex?

Don't know if it is weird of me, but I have wondered this and kind of tried it (half-heartedly). And if I am really horney I can feel extremely close to orgasm, to the degree that I have a suspicion that it is possible. By which I mean, I think it is similar to people's ability to get into certain states by way of meditation. I have felt really close, right on verge, and it felt as though if I knew how to focus in a certain way it would have happened. The feeling I was getting was very nice, not like masturbating.. ummm, a kind of warm flowing feeling through my cock.

[Bridgit Astar]

I'm curious how many people have read this erotic work. It's the first literary work of erotica. It was written in the late 18th century.

I have not read it, but I intend to now.

[Bridgit Astar]

I have not read it, but I intend to now.

You will not ne disappointed.